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Episode 6

Fed-Surrection, Part 2

Was Ray Epps the victim of right wing conspiracies and speculation? Or was he being used, like everyone else on January 6th, but for a different purpose?

INSURRECTION VS FED-SURRECTION – PART TWO

 

STUDIO:

 

WHEN PEOPLE USE THE TERM “FED”, MOST OF US ASSUME THEY ARE REFERRING TO THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION OR FBI. WHEN IN FACT, ‘FED’ COULD MEAN ANYONE WORKING FOR AN AGENCY OR OFFICE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL.

 

THAT COULD BE THE CIA, HOMELAND SECURITY OR THE STATE DEPARTMENT, TO NAME A FEW. IT COULD ALSO BE A FEDERAL OFFICE FOR ANY SENATOR OR CONGRESSMAN.

 

AND THERE ARE MANY FORMS EMPLOYMENT CAN TAKE – STAFFER, CONTRACTOR, INFORMANT AND SO ON.

 

IN OUR LAST REPORT, WE LOOKED AT THE CURIOUS CASE OF RAY EPPS, AND WHY A NUMBER OF THOSE AROUND HIM ON THE EVE OF JANUARY 6TH SUSPECTED HE MAY BE A “FED”.

 

TO BE FAIR: EPPS HAS REPEATEDLY DENIED WORKING FOR ANY GOVERNMENT AGENCY AND THAT MAY VERY WELL BE TRUE.

 

OUR JOB AS JOURNALISTS IS NOT TO PROVE A CASE – WE’RE NEITHER LAWYERS NOR ACTIVISTS. BUT WE ARE SUPPOSED TO GET AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO THE WHOLE TRUTH AND LET YOU DECIDE.

 

AND EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES, SO WE WOULD LIKE TO INVITE RAY EPPS ONCE AGAIN, TO SIT DOWN WITH US AND TELL HIS STORY.

 

ONE QUESTION THAT WE HAVE FOR HIM IS, WHAT, IF ANYTHING,  HE MAY HAVE KNOWN ABOUT A PLAN TO “STORM THE CAPITOL” SINCE THAT’S WHAT HE WAS RECORDED TALKING ABOUT ON JANUARY 5TH, WHEN HE SPOKE TO LIVESTREAMER “BAKED ALASKA” AND JUST HAPPENED TO DISCOVER THE TWO OF THEM WERE NEIGHBORS BACK HOME IN THE TINY CITY OF  QUEEN CREEK, ARIZONA…

 

 

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Nats: Baked Alaska with protestors and Epps

 

AS WE SHOWED YOU BEFORE, WHEN TIM GIONET, KNOWN AS ‘BAKED ALASKA’ WAS LIVESTREAMING IN WASHINGTON DC THE NIGHT BEFORE JANUARY 6TH, RAY EPPS LEANED IN TO HIM AND WHISPERED SOMETHING HE APPARENTLY DID NOT WANT TO SAY OUT LOUD:

 

EPPS; We’re here to storm (the Capitol).

Baked: laughs out loud

Epps: I’m not kidding!

Baked: (repeats) We’re here to storm the capitol ha ha. Hell yea. All right. Have a good night and be safe. Be safe brother.

 

SOMEHOW THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE, WITH A BUDGET OF MORE THAN 18 MILLION DOLLARS AND OVER 40 STAFFERS, SEEMED TO HAVE MISSED THE MOST REVEALING – SOME WOULD SAY INCRIMINATING – THING EPPS SAID.

 

CHENEY: “THE CONSPIRACY THEORY ABOUT RAY EPPS IS JUST A LIE, IT’S JUST NOT TRUE. THERE’S SOME.. THERE’S A CONSPIRACY THEORY, OBVIOUSLY IVE SEEN IT OUT THERE…

 

Various Schiff & others on twitter and TV saying things like Epps is not a fed)

JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE MEMBERS LIKE, LIZ CHENEY AND ADAM KINZINGER – BOTH REPUBLICANS – HAVE PUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF  EFFORT INTO DEFENDING EPPS – ON SOCIAL MEDIA…AND IN THIS CASE, SPEAKING TO STUDENTS AT THE UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO.

 

CHENEY: // IT’S ONE OF THOSE PIECES OF WHAT WE’VE SEEN AROUND JANUARY 6TH THAT IS PUSHED BY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO SUGGEST THAT THIS ATTACK WAS SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT IT REALLY WAS.”

 

AND TO REMIND YOU, SO FAR IT APPEARED NO ONE HAD ASKED EPPS WHAT HE KNEW WHEN HE WHISPERED “STORM” THE CAPITOL BEFORE IT HAPPENED AND BEFORE AMERICANS GOT THE MESSAGE…

 

Nats: various people saying “storm” the capitol/ news broadcast and headlines all saying “storm the capitol”

 

BAKED: Nobody cared about the Ray Epps story for the first year after January 6th, it was just a nothing burger to everyone for some reason. I thought it was a big story but I was banned off Twitter, I was banned off YouTube, I was banned off all social media so I couldn’t get the story out. You know, I wasn’t able to get into the mainstream. //I was arrested probably a week after January 6th and when I got out, my followers and my fans, we all started looking into Ray Epps. Someone is like//, “He used to be an oath keeper and he used to be military intelligence,” and on and on and on. We just started finding these crazy things about Ray Epps and then….

[00:29:42] LARA: I don’t know. Is it confirmed-

[00:29:44] BAKED: Yes, confirmed-

[00:29:45] LARA: -that he had a background in military intelligence or?

[00:29:47] BAKED: Yes, I’ve talked to his… Well, I believe so.

[00:30:02] LARA: Believing and being certain are two very different things. Of course, it’s a serious thing to say someone’s a Fed, right?

[00:30:08] BAKED: Right.

[00:30:09] LARA: You can’t just make that charge.

[00:30:11] BAKED: As someone who, you know, people have called me a Fed, I understand how serious it is. So you know, I say “This is allegedly, This is what I believe”. I don’t have like, a smoking gun per se.

[00:30:22] LARA: That you can prove it.

[00:30:23] BAKED: Yea, I can’t.. I do know he was an oath keeper. I do know he was in the military because there was an old Facebook photo of him that I’ve seen, on his actual Facebook.

[00:30:46] LARA: Right.

[00:30:46] BAKED: I have it. That’s why even when I say he is a Fed, I say allegedly, that’s what I believe based off the evidence that I saw.

(Epps Oath Keepers video)

WE DID CONFIRM RAY EPPS’S INVOLVEMENT YEARS AGO WITH THE OATH KEEPERS, AS SEEN IN THIS VIDEO FROM TUCSON, ARIZONA IN 2011 WHERE RAY EPPS IS WEARING THE T-SHIRT AND MARCHING ALONG. THIS IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT ACCORDING TO THE DOJ, LED THE SO-CALLED “INSURRECTION”. AND AT EPP’S SIDE: THE MAN WHO LED THEM, STEWART RHODES, FOUNDER OF THE GROUP AND ONE OF THE FEW CONVICTED ON CHARGES OF SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY WHO’S CURRENTLY SERVING EIGHTEEN YEARS,  AMONG THE LONGEST SENTENCES OF ANY JANUARY 6 DEFENDANT.  

 

DEPENDING ON YOUR POLITICS, THE OATH KEEPERS WERE EITHER FAR-RIGHT ANTI-GOVERNMENT EXTREMISTS OR – TO USE THEIR WORDS – A “NON-PARTISAN ASSOCIATION OF CURRENT AND FORMER MILITARY, POLICE AND FIRST RESPONDERS” WHO’RE UPHOLDING THEIR OATH TO DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION. 

 

KAIT: 00:00:00]

Lara: What made you join the Oath Keepers?

[00:00:07]

Kait: I like the concept and the mission statement which is revere, follow the Constitution. It was just directed at //Anyone that’s taken the oath to remind them that regardless of what’s going on around us, we are bound to that oath.

[00:00:39] Lara: Is there something sinister in that?

[00:00:43] Kait: No, absolutely not. Unless you think the Constitution’s sinister//,

KAIT HYLTON SAID SHE WAS AT THAT EVENT WITH RHODES AND EPPS…A MEMORIAL THE OATH KEEPERS HELD FOR A YOUNG MARINE COMBAT VETERAN, JOSE GUERENA…Nats bugle playing…HE DIED TRAGICALLY AT HOME IN TUCSON, KILLED BY POLICE WHEN A SWAT TEAM RAIDED HIS HOUSE AND RIDDLED HIS BODY WITH BULLETS. POLICE PROVIDED CONFLICTING ACCOUNTS BUT IN THE END, REPORTEDLY PAID HIS FAMILY $3.4 MILLION DOLLARS WITHOUT ADMITTING FAULT.

Nats: Epps reading “excessive bail shall not be required” at Oathkeeper event.

AT THE TIME, KAIT SAID EPPS WAS PRESIDENT OF THE ARIZONA OATH KEEPERS WHERE SHE’D BEEN A MEMBER SINCE EARLY 2010, HAVING JOINED NOT LONG AFTER THE GROUP ITSELF WAS FOUNDED.

[00:01:35] Lara: What was the purpose really? What was the point?

[00:01:39] Kait: The point was mostly educational. They had a motto, reach, teach, and inspire basically to //reach out to different entities from children to Eagle Scouts, veterans’ organizations, //and teach about the Constitution because that had been stopped in most schools.

[00:02:21] Lara: Was it essentially locally based?

[00:02:25] Kait: It was nationally based but with local chapters//and it exploded because a lot of people could relate to that and had been wanting that.

[00:02:57] Lara: When was this happening?

[00:03:00] Kait: Stewart Rhodes announced the formation of Oath Keepers April 19th, 2009, at Lexington Green in Massachusetts, Patriots Day.

(photo of Kate in uniform)

KAIT HAD TAKEN HER OATH WHEN SHE JOINED THE BORDER PATROL AUXILIARY, AND SAID HAD WORKED IN OPERATIONS ALONG THE BORDER IN ARIZONA AND CALIFORNIA SINCE 2006. 

 

(walking shots with Logan and the dog)

NOW 70 YEARS OLD WITH GROWN UP CHILDREN AND A RESCUE DOG, SKY, WHO NEVER LEAVES HER SIDE, SHE SAID SHE WORKS FROM HOME IN ARIZONA, A LONG WAY FROM THE ICE AND SNOW OF THE NORTH AND THE TINY TOWN IN MICHIGAN WHERE HER LIFE BEGAN.

 

SHE TOLD US SHE’S A LIFETIME MEMBER OF THE OATH KEEPERS AND WAS ACTIVE FOR MORE THAN A DECADE. KAIT SAID BEFORE JANUARY 6TH, THEY HAD ABOUT 35, 000 MEMBERS WHO WOULD STEP UP WHEN DISASTER HIT, AS THEY DID IN HOUSTON, TEXAS IN AUGUST 2017 WHEN HURRICANE HARVEY OVERWHELMED THE CITY. THEY’D CARRIED OUT THOUSANDS OF OPERATIONS – FROM RESCUE MISSIONS TO SECURITY – AND UNTIL JANUARY 6TH, KAIT SAID THEY’D NOT BEEN CHARGED WITH A CRIME.

 

00:11:11] Kait: //That was a common request if Oath Keepers could come and help with security.

[00:11:28] Lara: Was it paid?

[00:11:29] Kait: No, everything was volunteer.

[00:11:32] Lara: So who would request security from the Oath Keepers? What kind of people?

[00:11:37] Kait: A range of people from local shopkeepers like Ferguson // because the stores were being burnt down and broken into and looted, so they requested Oath Keepers provide security.

[00:11:57] Lara: Black and White businesses?

[00:12:00] Kait: Mostly Black, yeah, but both.

[00:12:02] Lara: Of course, there’s the narrative out there that Oath Keepers are white supremacists, right? It doesn’t really fit with Black-owned businesses having them come in to do security for them in Ferguson.

[00:12:13] Kait: The Black business owners thanking them for saving their business. They provided.. They saved a lot of businesses during the Ferguson riots.

KAIT, SEEN HERE WITH STEWART RHODES, SAID EPPS LEFT THE ARIZONA OATH KEEPERS IN LATE 2011. HER SENSE WAS THAT HE WANTED TO FOCUS ON HIS WORK WITH THE MORMON CHURCH AND THE FAMILY BUSINESS HE WAS BUILDING. BUT EPPS GAVE A DIFFERENT REASON WHEN HE TESTIFIED BEFORE THE COMMITTEE. ACCORDING TO THE TRANSCRIPT HE SAID IT WAS WHEN “ANTIFA HAD FIRST COME OUT” IN PORTLAND AND “THEY WERE BURNING THINGS AND DOING DIFFERENT THINGS ON THE NEWS”.  STEWART RHODES WANTED TO “GO THERE AND TRY TO DIRECT THEM”ACCORDING TO EPPS AND HE DID NOT AGREE WITH THAT “SO WE KIND-OF SPLIT WAYS’. HE ADDED: “THEY WERE TOO  RADICAL FOR MY LIKES”.

 

WE LOOKED INTO ROSE CITY ANTIFA, THE MAIN ANARCHIST GROUP IN PORTLAND AND SEARCHED FOR NEWS COVERAGE OF THEM “BURNING THINGS” AT THAT TIME AS EPPS HAD TESTIFIED. WE FOUND THAT IN 2011 THEY WERE FOUR YEARS OLD, RELATIVELY SMALL IN NUMBER AND MOSTLY FOCUSSED ON SOCIAL JUSTICE ISSUES. WE DID NOT FIND NEWS STORIES ABOUT ANTIFA BURNING ANYTHING BUT WE DID FIND NEWS COVERAGE OF THE ‘OCCUPY PORTLAND MOVEMENT” THAT WAS FORCIBLY REMOVED FROM TWO PARKS THAT YEAR.

 

KAIT SAID STEWART RHODES NEVER SUGGESTED INFILTRATING ANTIFA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO HER AND AS FAR AS SHE KNEW, EPPS LEFT ON GOOD TERMS.

 

00:15:13] Kait: No one saw him again. //No contact till I saw the footage from January 6th.

[00:15:43] Lara: //and what did you think?

[00:15:46] Kait: I thought he’s changed, [chuckles] He’s yelling, “Go into the Capitol.” That’s not something I could see him saying //That’s totally the opposite of the image that he had presented previously.

[00:16:09] Lara: In what way?

[00:16:10] Kait: //Well, he was a Marine, very disciplined. They don’t cross those lines.

[00:16:22] Lara: No.

[00:16:22] Kait: Yet here he was screaming to total strangers to cross that line. And, it was so out of character from what I knew of him.

[00:16:43] Lara: Did you talk to anyone else about it?

[00:16:48] Kait: Stewart.

[00:16:48] Lara: You spoke to Stewart Rhodes about it?

[00:16:49] Kait: Stewart is the only other person that I’m aware of that knew Ray Epps that has been in the organization that long, and Stewart was shocked as well. We had several conversations about it. He said, “That’s not the Ray we knew.”

[00:17:36] Lara: When you saw the media, certain parts of the media start to say he // might be working for the government in some capacity. Maybe he’s an undercover informant or something. Maybe he’s a contractor. All of which he denies of course //did that strike you as realistic or possible?

[00:18:00] Kait: Yes.

[00:18:00] Lara: // Yes?

[00:18:02] Kait: Yes, because //it was so out of character that I would think someone would have to be instructing him on how to conduct himself. I couldn’t think of any other logical explanation for his behavior, his demeanor, his words, any of it, but I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

[00:18:27] Kait:  and the more I heard, the more it seemed to me that he was an informant.

[00:18:35] Lara: What do you base that on? Because obviously // he’s been on national TV protesting his innocence, he’s been defended by the January 6th committee.

[00:18:47] Kait: I guess, he’s going on the offense because he’s guilty. //the louder you get the guiltier you probably are.

[00:19:11] Lara: Where attack is the best form of defense.

[00:19:13] Kait: Right. //exactly. Look at everybody else, //  they’ve got grandmothers with cancer that walked in and took a selfie that are in prison.  /it just doesn’t add up. Here he is actually on film verbalizing going into the Capitol.

[00:19:51] Lara: Both the night before and the day off.

[00:19:52] Kait: Exactly. That’s what you call ginning up a crowd.

[00:19:57] Lara: Incitement.

[00:19:59] Kait: Incitement.

[00:20:34] Lara: What about people who say, well, there’s nothing there and you’re making life traumatic for an innocent man?  //and now he’s been charged by the FBI anyway.

[00:20:50] Kait: With a misdemeanor.

[00:20:52] Lara: Yes.

[00:20:52] Kait: My question would be then what’s the logical explanation of why he has not spent a day in jail all this time? Anybody else doing far less, not only were picked up and put in jail to await trials indefinitely but had to wait for their day in court in a jail cell. He wasn’t, and he’s the only one literally on film that I’m aware of that is actually calling to breach the Capitol.

[00:22:13] Lara: With your history in the Border Patrol Auxiliary and the kind of work that you did, is there any experience that you have from your past that contributes to how you look at this?

[00:22:34] Kait: You have to rely, be able to trust and rely on people and be able to read them because it’s your safety, not only theirs.

[00:22:59] Lara: Yes.

[00:23:00] Kait: Nobody wants //to be associated with someone they can’t trust or feel they’re lying to them. And //he fooled me. It may have been him then, but he changed, something happened after he left Oath Keepers until January the 6th. What? I don’t know, but those were two different people.

WE REALLY WANTED TO ASK RAY EPPS THAT QUESTION AND REACHED OUT AGAIN TO HIS ATTORNEY MICHAEL TETER BUT GOT NO RESPONSE. TETER WAS IN SOME WAYS AN ODD CHOICE FOR EPPS: HOW DID A TRUMP SUPPORTER WHO BELIEVED THE 2020 ELECTION WAS STOLEN END UP WITH A LAWYER WHO’S LEADING THE EFFORT TO PUNISH TRUMP’S ATTORNEYS FOR QUESTIONING THE ELECTION? MICHAEL TETER RUNS THE 65 PROJECT WHICH, ACCORDING TO THEIR WEBSITE, IS WORKING WITH BAR ASSOCIATIONS SO THAT “LAWYERS WHO SUBVERT DEMOCRACY WILL BE PUNISHED”. ONE OF HIS MAIN ALLIES IN THIS EFFORT: DAVID BROCK, A MAJOR POLITICAL OPERATIVE FOR THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY WHO TOLD AXIOS IN 2022 THE IDEA WAS ALSO TO SHAME ATTORNEYS “AND MAKE THEM TOXIC IN THEIR COMMUNITIES AND IN THEIR FIRMS”.

IN MEDIA INTERVIEWS, MICHAEL TETER HAS SAID HIS CLIENT’S LIFE HAS BEEN RUINED BY RIGHT-WING CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH FORCED HIM TO SELL HIS HOME IN ARIZONA AMIDST DEATH THREATS AND GO INTO HIDING. WHEN HE SPOKE TO 60 MINUTES IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, EPPS AND HIS WIFE ROBYN WERE SHOWN LIVING IN AN RV IN AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION, ALTHOUGH IT WAS UNCLEAR IF THAT HAS SINCE CHANGED. ACCORDING TO PUBLIC RECORDS, IN APRIL LAST YEAR EPPS SOLD HIS PROPERTY IN QUEEN CREEK FOR  $2.2 MILLION DOLLARS.

REMEMBER WHEN EPPS TOLD BAKED ALASKA THIS ABOUT ANTIFA:

Epps saying: I despise Antifa…I stood them down myself..,with three army vets, in Queen Creek Arizona.

WE COULD NOT FIND ANY RECORD OF THE ANTIFA IN QUEEN CREEK AND KAIT DID NOT RECALL THEM EVER BEING THERE. WE’RE STILL LOOKING FOR EVIDENCE OF A CLASH WITH ARMY VETS…

BUT WE DID FIND SOMETHING ELSE:

Nats: (Stop the Steal rally)

Baked: “Good morning, how are you?”

IT TURNED OUT JANUARY 5TH WAS NOT THE FIRST TIME RAY EPPS ENCOUNTERED BAKED ALASKA. YOU CAN SEE HIM CIRCLING DURING THIS LIVESTREAM RECORDED BY BAKED ALASKA AT A’ STOP THE STEAL’ RALLY IN PHOENIX ON NOVEMBER 30th, SHORTLY AFTER THE 2020 ELECTION. IT APPEARED TO HAVE BEEN SCRUBBED FROM THE INTERNET, ACCORDING TO FORENSICS EXPERTS WE CONSULTED, WHO FOUND A SINGLE COPY BURIED DEEP IN AN ONLINE ARCHIVE AND MANAGED TO EXTRACT THE FULL LIVESTREAM OF 11 HOURS 10 MINUTES AND 55 SECONDS.

HERE IT SHOWED RAY EPPS PACING BACK AND FORTH A SHORT WAY FROM BAKED ALASKA WHO SEEMED TO HAVE HIS ATTENTION, AS HE LOOKED OVER IN HIS DIRECTION REPEATEDLY – 13 TIMES BY OUR COUNT. THEN EPPS STOPPED AND POINTED HIS CAMERA RIGHT AT HIM, SNAGGING A PHOTO BEFORE PUTTING HIS PHONE DOWN AND WALKING AWAY, ONLY TO RE-EMERGE ON-CAMERA ROUGHLY A MINUTE LATER, TAKING ANOTHER PHOTO IN THE SAME AREA.

NOT LONG AFTER THAT HE INTERRUPTED THIS ARGUMENT….NATS from the argument…. WITH A COMMENT…

Nats: Epps We’re all Americans,

00:21:36] BAKED: I didn’t realize this honestly, until //someone put out on Twitter, and they were sort of accusing me of being like a Fed or something. They’re like, “Oh, Baked must be a Fed because here’s Ray Epps on one of his trips.” I’m like, “What?, I expose Feds, like, how dare you?” But, if I listen to everything online, I’d go insane.

[00:22:22] LARA: Where was this?

[00:22:23] BAKED: This was in Downtown Phoenix at Stop the Steal. //I meet a thousand people a day as you know so these are long streams, 8 hours, 10 hours. I didn’t remember that interaction at all.

[00:22:42] LARA: Did you even notice him at the time?

[00:22:44] BAKED: No, because // like I said, I talked to so many people.

WAS RAY EPPS SIMPLY A CURIOUS BYSTANDER? OR WAS THERE MORE TO IT? WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO ASK EPPS DIRECTLY, THAT’S A QUESTION WE COULDN’T ANSWER.

IRONICALLY, IT WAS BAKED ALASKA NOT EPPS WHO ENDED UP GOING INSIDE THE CAPITOL, LIVESTREAMING ALL THE WAY…AND BAKED ALASKA THE ONE WHO ENDED UP IN JAIL.

Nats:

Baked “Whats up everybody? Your boy Baked Alaska about to go into federal prison. Let’s go!”

EPPS MADE IT ONTO THE FBI’S LIST OF UNIDENTIFIED JANUARY 6 SUSPECTS , BUT WAS REMOVED AROUND SIX MONTHS LATER WITHOUT BEING CHARGED – THAT WAS TAKEN BY MANY AS A SIGN HE WAS BEING PROTECTED, BUT HIS CRIMINAL ATTORNEY, JOHN BLISCHAK, TOLD POLITICO HE THOUGHT EPPS WAS REMOVED IN PART BECAUSE HE HAD CONTACTED THE FBI AND WAS NO LONGER UNIDENTIFIED.

HOWEVER WE FOUND OTHER SUSPECTS WHO’D BEEN IDENTIFIED AND WERE STILL ON THE FBI LIST, THEIR PICTURES UPDATED WITH A BANNER SAYING “ARRESTED”. WE ALSO FOUND MATTHEW PERNA, STILL ON THERE MORE THAN A YEAR AND A HALF AFTER HE’D COMMITTED SUICIDE IN FEBRUARY 2022, AND HIS CASE HAD BEEN CLOSED.

THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE, IN A STATEMENT, DISMISSED CONCERNS ABOUT THE FBI WEBSITE AS “UNSUPPORTED” AND SAID EPPS TOLD THEM HE WAS NOT WORKING FOR THE FBI OR ANY OTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY ON JANUARY 6TH AND NEVER HAD. 

EPPS HAS NOW BEEN CHARGED, MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF YEARS LATER WITH A CLASS A MISDEMEANOR FOR DISORDERLY CONDUCT ON RESTRICTED GROUNDS, ACCORDING TO PUBLIC CASE RECORDS. 

THOSE RECORDS ALSO SHOW EPPS DID NOT HAVE TO APPEAR IN COURT WHEN HE PLED GUILTY – THE DOJ WAIVED HIS OBLIGATION AND ALLOWED HIM TO APPEAR VIA ZOOM.

NOT SO MUCH FOR BAKED ALASKA,  ALSO CHARGED WITH MISDEMEANORS BUT ARRESTED ON JANUARY 15TH 2021, LESS THAN TEN DAYS AFTER JANUARY 6TH. WHEN WE MET UP WITH HIM IN FLORIDA WHERE HE NOW LIVES, HE SAID HE WAS ON HIS WAY BACK TO ARIZONA AND HAD STOPPED OVERNIGHT IN A HOTEL WHEN THIS HAPPENED…

(Baked Alaska Beach interview)

[00:02:24] BAKED: //I was driving home from DC in Houston, Texas, and there was someone who came to my door and it was a guy, a towel guy, and he said, “Excuse me, do you need more towels?” I was like, “No.” I was barely awake and I shut the door and I was like, “I could have sworn that guy had a vest on, a bulletproof vest on, and it was in a hotel uniform.” //I went down to my parking garage to get my rental car. 20 US Marshals jumped out, “Get on the ground.” Guns, rifles, threw me on the ground, handcuffed me, and it was just like they sent the whole squad over to make this big scene, wasted taxpayer money, put me in danger. For what? We, my attorney and I, said, “If you want us, I’m going to peacefully surrender.” That happened not just with me, but with everyone. I’ve heard stories of doors getting kicked down and these late night or morning raids and the family having to go through the trauma. It’s absolutely insane. I had PTSD just from that.

[00:04:02] LARA: Because it’s so scary?

[00:04:04] BAKED: Yes, it’s scary and it just seems like it never ended. The cops kept coming to my door trying to get me on more charges and more charges. //I’m here with you technically free in Florida, but I’m on a two-year federal probation. The FBI just tried to charge me with conspiracy, but they couldn’t, but they admitted that.

[00:04:23] LARA: Conspiracy for what?

[00:04:25] BAKED: In the New York Times, they were trying to charge me with conspiracy for going to January 6th and meeting up with friends and they were saying, “Oh, that was part of some big plan,” but they couldn’t find evidence.

[00:04:39] LARA: Are you still under investigation, do you think, by the FBI?

[00:04:43] BAKED: I submitted a FOIA request asking, and they said they couldn’t tell me that it was confidential information, so [chuckles] I would guess I’m probably on a never-ending investigation because they want to find any reason to put me behind bars.

00:08:20] LARA: Are you on any no-fly lists or anything like that?

[00:08:23] BAKED: I am on the Quad S list it’s called. Every time I fly, four S’s appear in the top left of my ticket. I can’t check in online. I’ve got to go about three hours early. They have to manually call Homeland Security, treat me like a terrorist, go through every single thing I own with a bomb squad and– I’m not joking. Then, pat me down in every way possible. Then, I get to the gate and it’s not done. Then, they come back again, pat me down in front of everybody. Really, what this is, it’s a humiliation tactic.

[00:08:59] LARA: Intimidation.

[00:09:00] BAKED: They want to humiliate me, intimidate me in the public square, and say this is what we’re doing to BAKED ALASKA. If you speak up, if you step out of line, they’re going to do it to you.

THE PRESENCE OF UNDERCOVER AGENTS AND INFORMANTS AMIDST THE CROWD ON JANUARY 6TH HAS BEEN COMING TO LIGHT AND CAN NO LONGER BE DISMISSED AS CONSPIRACY…

LARA LOGAN [00:37:53] 

What have you learned so far?

 

BARRY LOUDERMILK 00:38:05

We’re tracking down different ideas and theories. One of those theories was that there were undercover law enforcement officers in the crowds. We know that to be true.

 

WE TURNED TO INVESTIGATORS LIKE CONGRESSMAN BARRY LOUDERMILK, SINCE THE FBI AND DOJ WON’T COMMENT. HE’S CHAIRMAN OF THE HOUSE ADMINISTRATION’S OVERSIGHT SUB-COMMITTEE INVESTIGATING SECURITY FAILURES AROUND JANUARY 6TH.

LARA LOGAN [01:08:55] 

Is it potentially the biggest set-up in the history of this country?

 

BARRY LOUDERMILK [01:08:58] 

Potentially.

 

LARA LOGAN [01:08:59] 

One of the greatest crimes against the American people?

 

BARRY LOUDERMILK [01:09:03] 

//That’s why it’s so important to get the truth with this. That’s what we’re working for. The cover-ups that happened after January 6 is what I’m really after as well.

 

 LARA LOGAN [01:10:48] 

What about the Republicans involved in those cover-ups? //I know it’s hard for you to address those things. This is your own party, but this is the reality.

 

BARRY LOUDERMILK [01:10:59] 

We’re going to go where evidence leads.

 

LARA LOGAN [01:11:01]  

No matter what.

 

BARRY LOUDERMILK [01:11:02] 

No matter what.

 

LARA LOGAN [01:11:03] 

I’m going to hold you to that.

 

BARRY LOUDERMILK [01:11:04] 

Yes.

 

FOR THE JANUARY 6TH COMMITTEE, THE CONGRESSMAN FROM GEORGIA AND HIS TEAM OF INVESTIGATORS WOULD PROVE TO BE THE PROBLEM THAT WOULDN’T GO AWAY…

 

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NEXT WEEK:

 

DID THE DOJ AND THE JANUARY 6 COMMITTEE OVERLOOK A FELONY ARREST WARRANT FOR RAY EPPS IN PENNSYLVANIA FROM 2015?

 

JIM HOFT: WE HAVE VIDEO OF RAY EPPS HOLDING UP THIS HUGE MAGA SIGN, STEEL MAGA SIGN, AND HE’S ACTUALLY HELPING PUSH IT. //SOME OF THE MEN WHO WERE TOUCHING THAT SIGN, //THEY’RE IN PRISON TODAY.

 

 

 

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